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Tiger
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20th Nov 11 at 21:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It's cropped up on my PC, I cant get onto Windows as I just get a black screen with a cursor, I can run task manager and boot in safe mode but thats it, I photographed an event today and I need to burn the images for tomorrow but now i've got this issue and i've got to fix it before I go to bed tonight, any idea's?

I can't seem to run start up repair, I only get the safe mode options and start windows as normal options.

Please help
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If you do ctrl+alt+del can you see a process explorer.exe? If not, under applications and select "new task", then enter explorer.exe.
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Yeah its there, but I cant do anything with it.
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When in safe mode I've ran system restore but then it doesnt appear, when I click it again it says its already running.
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System restore should sort it I imagine?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304449

edit: ahhh, dno then .

[Edited on 20-11-2011 by ashleh]
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repair install if you have a windows disc
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I think ive got one, its a legal copy, dunno if it came pre-installed, its a Dell PC.
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I've managed to access system restore from command prompt, I honestly hope this works, i've taken it back a month. If it doesnt i'm in a potentially career damaging situtaion.
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It didnt work, I can't find my Vista disc either...
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Do you not have another PC you can use?
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I've found my vista disc...
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Does your PC have a dedicated video card? If so, try removing it from the motherboard and using the onboard video.

If that works, your video card is fucked.
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The thing is, I can everything to work except the actual desktop. I can get task manager in full res (rather than low res safe mode).

Its got a GT240 card in it.
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You mean you can run applications with no problem via Task Manager?
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I can start applications, but cant actually switch to use them in task manager.

http://youtu.be/cYg5if_ktQs

Not my PC, but the same problem.
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I've tried startup repair now too and it hasnt worked, same problem exists, i'm going to have to do a complete system format and clean install, what a fucking pain in the fucking arse.

Windows OS? Never ever again.
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Before you do that, try creating a new user.

From the task manager type in control userpasswords

Create the account and see if you can log off/back on again. If you can, then you have a virus.

In my experience, this sort of thing is down to either dying hardware (hence my video card question) or a virus/malware.

Edit: have you tried the fixmbr thing like is suggested in the video?

[Edited on 20-11-2011 by Sam]
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I never view anything dodgy on this and it's fully protected, I've never had a virus on my laptop before and coz this is a newish system I'm really careful as it has all work stuff on it...
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I've got no time to mess with it, I'm going to format and reinstall windows, no other options.
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My work PC does this, so I just put it on stand by now
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quote:
Originally posted by Tiger
I never view anything dodgy on this and it's fully protected, I've never had a virus on my laptop before and coz this is a newish system I'm really careful as it has all work stuff on it...


quote:
Originally posted by Tiger
I've got no time to mess with it, I'm going to format and reinstall windows, no other options.


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quote:
Originally posted by Sam
quote:
Originally posted by Tiger
I never view anything dodgy on this and it's fully protected, I've never had a virus on my laptop before and coz this is a newish system I'm really careful as it has all work stuff on it...


quote:
Originally posted by Tiger
I've got no time to mess with it, I'm going to format and reinstall windows, no other options.





Bit schoolboy tbf, everyone should run multi-drive/partition (former obviously better) setups and backup anything important to media or online (dropbox gives you 2GB free or Skydrive gives you 25GB free).

And it sounds like a dodgy driver/install rather hardware failure; Vista/Win7 would either throw up driver restart/crash error (one of my cards does it when it gets stupidly hot), a BSOD or you'll see visual artifacts if it was the graphics card. Although if you have access to the Task Manager and can't 'End Process' the Explorer shell then it could be malware infection, although that's a pure guess as I've never experienced that before even when I've had the Black Screen 'of death'.
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Did you try pulling all your USB devices out (obv if you had any), then restarting?

[Edited on 21-11-2011 by ashleh]
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If Windows reboots in safe mode, does it not use the standard VGA driver rather than the one specific to your card?

I must admit I've never checked this TBH
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quote:
Originally posted by Sam
If Windows reboots in safe mode, does it not use the standard VGA driver rather than the one specific to your card?

I must admit I've never checked this TBH


Yup, windows defaults to it's own drivers for most hardware iirc. Either way, Tiger said he could view Task Manager without any problems so it sounds unlikely it was his graphics card at fault. I am surprised a restore didn't correct it though.
If he has done a reinstall he could probably run a recovery on his drive and recover some of his important data; then back it up

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