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Dean_W
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27th May 08 at 15:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Cousin has had no engine in his Corsa B for a week or so due to engine swap, XE for XE.

Came to bleeding the brakes for him saturday and they just will not go solid, vacum assisted or no vacum assist, it ain't happening.

He said they went solid once, and then that was it. Back to soft. I've had a look/feel along the lines I can get to and there seems to be no splits. No fluid leaking and the MC pushes the fluid through as it should.

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Vaux Lad
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27th May 08 at 15:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Have the calipers been changed???
Dean_W
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27th May 08 at 15:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
They have been taken off and painted up. Same calipers.
luke85
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Are the caliper clips on the correct way and the bleed nipples at the top?
Dean_W
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27th May 08 at 15:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
They are indeed mate.

I went round and checked all the obvious things, leaks, tightness etc.
Dave A
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27th May 08 at 15:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
seals damaged in the master cylinder during bleeding? often the MC will still work during the bleeding process but fail under operation and go to the floor.
Dean_W
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27th May 08 at 15:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Maybe Dave.

I'll have to ask him if he undid the lid on the MC reservoiur before pushing the pistons back.

Is there any tell tale signs of a knackered MC Dave?
Vaux Lad
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27th May 08 at 16:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
The calipers definently on the right side then?
As its a very easy mistake to make.
supremefaulk
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27th May 08 at 17:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
when you bleed the brakes, are you supposed to take the lid off the master cylinder aswell? or just when you push the caliper back in?
Dean_W
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28th May 08 at 08:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Vaux Lad - I know a bit about brakes, and all the obvious has been checked. Including which side the calipers are on.

supremefaulk - The lid on the MC should be taken off when bleeding and pushing the caliper back.
Dave A
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tell tale signs are the symptoms you are having. MC are expensive new but easy to fit.

if you struggle with getting prices under £40 give me a shout.
Dean_W
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28th May 08 at 09:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Thanks Dave. I'll pass it on.
supremefaulk
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cool, thanks dean. Top man
Dean_W
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30th May 08 at 09:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Dave or anybody with the knowledge!

Can you give me a quick insight into removal and fitting a new MC?

Thanks guys!
Mobby
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30th May 08 at 09:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
rear brake cylinders
JoeyB
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30th May 08 at 10:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Might be worth pressure bleeding them...
Dean_W
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30th May 08 at 10:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mobby
rear brake cylinders


There fine.

quote:
Originally posted by NotMyCorsa
Might be worth pressure bleeding them...


Trust me mate, these ain't gonna go hard. As above, were leaning towards a fucked MC.
Torsa g
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30th May 08 at 11:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Its easy dean,

just take the scuttle out, disconnect the brake pipes from the mc/ resorvoir, then there should be 4 bolts holding it to the bulk undo them, disconnect the brake sensor from inside and pull ti through carefully,

PS i have a hole mc/resourvoir/ pedal for sale

Tom
Dave A
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30th May 08 at 11:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
as above dean, its an easy swap.
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30th May 08 at 11:38   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
We did this to a nova and had the calipers on the wrong way round

Corsa 2.0 16v Vegas - Sold
Dean_W
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30th May 08 at 12:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Thanks for the help lads, appreciated

 
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